So the permaculture gardener uses all kinds of vertical structures. Whether fences, high or low, trellises, arbors, pergolas, to grow the crops up is the goal. Now these fences don't need to be constructed of very powerful lumbar in order to be strong. If you take a bunch of weak sticks and lash them all together, and pressure fit them against each other you can create a serviceable fence for peas, or maybe some flowers. I don't know if I would trust you know, a hundred pound tomato plant on this fence. However, this is very serviceable for some of the smaller crops. My main tools for building these fences are fleece scraps, and hardwood slats. And like I said some of these slats are pretty weak. But when we lash together Indian style, if we lash these together the sum effect of this fence is way stronger then it needs to be. And a little bitty fence like this, this might just last four or five seasons. Oh well maybe two or three.